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Re: [Golive] Testing 2012 http://golive.lassotalk.com/376338 Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:52 -0400 FARAMINEUX http://golive.lassotalk.com/376338 Received the two messages below! So what's cooking at Golive? I had to buy a new computer so I have to use Dreamweaver. For what I needed it was not the monster I had expected. Will I be burnt to the stakes?


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[ANN] List server moving tonight http://golive.lassotalk.com/376335 Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:14 -0400 Jonathan Guthrie http://golive.lassotalk.com/376335 This evening we are migrating list server software delivering the GoLive Email List.

This move should be largely transparent for list users, although if any user has problems posting to or receiving mail from this list, please contact us at support@lassosoft.com.


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I've narrowed... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376334 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:14 -0400 Punkinebers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376334 I've even narrowed it down to two scripts. Maybe one of you could simply look at the scripts and know what to do.

Any javascript geniuses out there?

I'm trying to take a process that already adds:

One type of registrant: $325
Second type of registrant: $300
Third type of registrant: $500

And to that I need to add this:

Fourth type of registrant: $1700
Fifth type of registrant: $3400


Does anyone think they can help me, or am I overstepping the bounds of this group? If I am, you can tell me, but please tell me gently because I can't bear anymore hardship right now. I'm at my limit.

Thanks,

P

P.S.: And I haven't been around not because I don't like you guys, but because I'm afraid of you. You roughed me up pretty good when I was here last. I don't have the tough skin you guys have. I aspire to, though.


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Re: Need New Address http://golive.lassotalk.com/376333 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 01:03 -0400 Punkinebers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376333 My email bounced back and said I was a nonmember.


On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Nini Tj=E4der wrote:

> Go here <http://glhlists.com/mailman/listinfo/golive_glhlists.com>
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Re: Need New Address http://golive.lassotalk.com/376332 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:54 -0400 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nini_Tj=E4der?= http://golive.lassotalk.com/376332 Go here <http://glhlists.com/mailman/listinfo/golive_glhlists.com>


On 5 apr 2011, at 00.15, Punkinebers wrote:

> Does anyone still monitor this list to tell people like me where to find the new list?
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> I never found an email indicating where you guys finally went.
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Re: Need New Address http://golive.lassotalk.com/376330 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:22 -0400 Ralph Sharp http://golive.lassotalk.com/376330 >Does anyone still monitor this list to tell people like me where to
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>I looked through all my old email, but all I could find were the
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>I never found an email indicating where you guys finally went.
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>Anyone? Anyone?

A voice cries out in the wilderness!

Here you go. :-)

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Need New Address http://golive.lassotalk.com/376329 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:15 -0400 Punkinebers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376329 Does anyone still monitor this list to tell people like me where to find the new list?

I looked through all my old email, but all I could find were the endless emails back and forth with the voting.

I never found an email indicating where you guys finally went.

Anyone? Anyone?


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Re: Need New Address http://golive.lassotalk.com/376331 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 03:23 -0400 Marcus Duke http://golive.lassotalk.com/376331 golive@glhlists.com

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Re: The other list? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376327 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:34 -0500 Richard McLean http://golive.lassotalk.com/376327 Hi Rick,


> Jeebus, what happened to the other list?


What do you mean?


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Re: The other list? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376328 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:06 -0500 Punkinebers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376328 I'm still here - all by myself.



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Re: The other list? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376325 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:08 -0500 Ralph Sharp http://golive.lassotalk.com/376325 >Jeebus, what happened to the other list?
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<the sound of crickets> :-D

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Re: The other list? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376326 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:50 -0500 luminositi http://golive.lassotalk.com/376326 >I'll discuss among myselves :)



Hmmm. Heard of Norse elves, Celtic elves, Sandy Denny and
Tolkien elves but this is the first time I=E2=80=99ve come across Mys elves

Once Doug hops aboard, we=E2=80=99ll go from Mys tery to his story


Cheers,

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The other list? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376324 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:50 -0500 Rick Faaberg http://golive.lassotalk.com/376324 Jeebus, what happened to the other list?

I guess I was right in preferring here... I'll discuss among myselves :)

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Re: jquery gods needed - solved NOT http://golive.lassotalk.com/376323 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:09 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376323 btw... some neat toys here

http://codecanyon.net




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Re: jquery gods needed - solved NOT http://golive.lassotalk.com/376322 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:06 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376322 On 8/18/10 8:51 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
> On 8/18/10 8:45 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
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>>
> Solution posted by wiget author
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> replaced line 357 in js with
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> return text;
>
>
> it was
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> return text.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g,"");
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well, it solved some of it

but now, I have a huge white space between headline and copy...

so coder-gods... which of the

/^\s+|\s+$/g,""

would affect this?

I am sure the widget author will respond at some point, but for $6 a
purchase, I'm sure not high on his list... :-)

http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php

and oddly enough, only the first feed item...

any help, as always, most appreciated...




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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376321 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:53 -0400 Anton Staartjes http://golive.lassotalk.com/376321 good for you!

as it works in your first test, it should work in the page you made,
if not it can make you really mad, i've been there..

anton


Op 18 aug 2010, om 14:45 heeft Patrice Olivier-Wilson het volgende
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> On 8/17/10 8:42 PM, Anton Staartjes wrote:
>> i looked at the code in the example: if you put this div in your
>> document the widget should appear there:
>>
>> <div id="newsWidget">
>> <div class="intro"</div>
>> <ul id="news"></ul>
>>
>> hope this helps
>>
>> anton
>>
>
> Thanks.. that was there without the class intro as I wasn't using
> it...but put it back in for testing. No joy.
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Re: jquery gods needed - solved http://golive.lassotalk.com/376320 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:51 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376320 On 8/18/10 8:45 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:

>
>
Solution posted by wiget author

replaced line 357 in js with

return text;


it was

return text.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g,"");

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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376319 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:45 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376319 On 8/17/10 8:42 PM, Anton Staartjes wrote:
> i looked at the code in the example: if you put this div in your
> document the widget should appear there:
>
> <div id="newsWidget">
> <div class="intro"</div>
> <ul id="news"></ul>
>
> hope this helps
>
> anton
>

Thanks.. that was there without the class intro as I wasn't using
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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376318 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:42 -0400 Anton Staartjes http://golive.lassotalk.com/376318 i looked at the code in the example: if you put this div in your
document the widget should appear there:

<div id="newsWidget">
<div class="intro"</div>
<ul id="news"></ul>

hope this helps

anton


Op 18 aug 2010, om 02:36 heeft Anton Staartjes het volgende geschreven:

> hi patrice
>
> you need a div called ul#news to show the widged in
>
> greetings
>
> anton
>
>
> Op 17 aug 2010, om 23:17 heeft Patrice Olivier-Wilson het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> sorry for bad link...
>>
>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/10 5:16 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>> On 8/17/10 5:14 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>>> hmmm...the link failed...
>>>>
>>>> one sec
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/17/10 5:13 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>>>> I purchased a plug in... and it works here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
>>>>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IÂ’m sure something so basic that IÂ’m overlooking logic.
>>>>> Any help, most appreciatedÂ…
>>>>>
>>>>> JQuery gods needed pls...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks as always...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376317 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:36 -0400 Anton Staartjes http://golive.lassotalk.com/376317 hi patrice

you need a div called ul#news to show the widged in

greetings

anton


Op 17 aug 2010, om 23:17 heeft Patrice Olivier-Wilson het volgende
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> sorry for bad link...
>
> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php
> >
>
>
>
>
> On 8/17/10 5:16 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/17/10 5:14 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>> hmmm...the link failed...
>>>
>>> one sec
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/17/10 5:13 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>>> I purchased a plug in... and it works here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
>>>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IÂ’m sure something so basic that IÂ’m overlooking logic.
>>>> Any help, most appreciatedÂ…
>>>>
>>>> JQuery gods needed pls...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks as always...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376316 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:17 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376316 sorry for bad link...

http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php

>




On 8/17/10 5:16 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
> On 8/17/10 5:14 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>> hmmm...the link failed...
>>
>> one sec
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/10 5:13 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>>> I purchased a plug in... and it works here
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
>>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php
>>>
>>>
>>> I�m sure something so basic that I�m overlooking logic.
>>> Any help, most appreciated�
>>>
>>> JQuery gods needed pls...
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks as always...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376315 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:16 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376315 On 8/17/10 5:14 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
> hmmm...the link failed...
>
> one sec
>
>
> On 8/17/10 5:13 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>> I purchased a plug in... and it works here
>>
>>
>>
>>
http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example1/test.php

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
>> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php
>>
>>
>> I�m sure something so basic that I�m overlooking logic.
>> Any help, most appreciated�
>>
>> JQuery gods needed pls...
>>
>>
>> thanks as always...
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376314 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:14 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376314 hmmm...the link failed...

one sec


On 8/17/10 5:13 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
> I purchased a plug in... and it works here
>
>
>
>
> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example/test.php
>
>
>
> But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
> http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php
>
>
> I�m sure something so basic that I�m overlooking logic.
> Any help, most appreciated�
>
> JQuery gods needed pls...
>
>
> thanks as always...
>
>
>


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jquery gods needed http://golive.lassotalk.com/376313 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:13 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376313 I purchased a plug in... and it works here




http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/news-widget-source/Script/Example/test.php


But an attempt to integrate into a site page is eluding me:
http://starlinegroup.biz-comm.com/newstest2.php


I�m sure something so basic that I�m overlooking logic.
Any help, most appreciated�

JQuery gods needed pls...


thanks as always...



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An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376312 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:23 -0400 cad http://golive.lassotalk.com/376312 >Being a PC person, do you even know how to search the computer for software
>beyond what is showing on the dock? There is an applications folder and
>everything should be in there, the dock is just like a quick start menu for
>the most commonly used apps. Another possibility is your only using the
>guest account which is not going to let you do much and everything is
>erased as soon as you log off.

I'm using the owner's account, it automatically logged him in when I turned
on the computer. Although I don't think he has Photoshop installed, I didn't
look beyond the doc. How would I do that? It's been over a year since I used
a Mac every day and those things are easily forgotten. I even have to remind
myself to use the command key. I do know that I couldn't import to IPhoto
because of the scratch or startup disc message. I should just ask him.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376311 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:50 -0400 David Miers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376311 Being a PC person, do you even know how to search the computer for software beyond what is showing on the dock? There is an applications folder and everything should be in there, the dock is just like a quick start menu for the most commonly used apps. Another possibility is your only using the guest account which is not going to let you do much and everything is erased as soon as you log off.
On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:06 PM, cad wrote:

> Thay may be, he does have a lot of external drives, but I don't recall them being hooked up in the past. This was the first time I had an issue with warning messages. He also doesn't have photo editing software beyond IPhoto, and since I didn't want to/couldn't import the images it was a challenge to review my photos. I should just ask him what's up with the computer


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Re: golive Digest #462 http://golive.lassotalk.com/376310 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:17 -0400 cad http://golive.lassotalk.com/376310 > On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Dougs Art wrote:
>
>> No problem here. Mac Firefox , Safari, Opera all OK.
>
> Thanks Doug. I'm thinking it's a Windows problem and sure hope someone on
> the list *has* the problem so I can figure out what needs fixing. This is
> so bizarre!

I'm on a PC and the site works using the latest versions of Firefox, Chrome
and IE 8.06. Maybe the thing to do is go to the local library and view the
site using a computer with internet access. That's a good way to see if a
site breaks. Most likely their computers will be PC running an earlier
version of IE.

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An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376309 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:06 -0400 cad http://golive.lassotalk.com/376309 > That error doesn't exactly make sense, but if your friend is a music and > video editor there are almost certainly external drives hooked to this > computer. They could have been ejected and thus not available for use.

Thay may be, he does have a lot of external drives, but I don't recall them
being hooked up in the past. This was the first time I had an issue with
warning messages. He also doesn't have photo editing software beyond IPhoto,
and since I didn't want to/couldn't import the images it was a challenge to
review my photos. I should just ask him what's up with the computer.

>You don 't have to have the tiny keyboard. There are alternative full size
>ones.

That's a relief. Apple is know for style above all else... or before I'm
flamed, style along with substance.

Carol


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Re: OT: recommendations for a PHP/MySQL tool http://golive.lassotalk.com/376308 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:09 -0400 Terri Chicko http://golive.lassotalk.com/376308 Volusion Rocks... have no affiliation just love them and there service.
Terri


On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:48 PM, John H. Lincoln wrote:

Sorry for the OT, butÂ…

I have a client looking for an eCommerce site. A good solution would be canned PHP/MySQL tool that will allow:

• user account Creation, Signup and Login;

• Admin access to maintain files;

• user submission of graphic images;

• shopping cart for purchase of graphic images;

• SSL online payment system;

• accounting system to track sales activity, per account;

• update of order status;

• configurable via HTML.


Not being tuned in to that marketplace, I'm hoping you can shine a light in the darkness.

Many thanks and TIA.

John
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376307 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:21 -0400 Rick Faaberg http://golive.lassotalk.com/376307 On 8/11/10 1:09 AM, "Nini Tjäder" <nini@ninisworld.com> sent this:

> No problems. Mac OS X 10.6.3 in latest Safari and Firefox.
>
> (Beautiful place. Sure would like to stay in the Wisteria Suite....;) (or any
> of the other suites too actually))
>
> On 11 aug 2010, at 00.25, Lee Helen W. wrote:
>
>>
>> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com

Let's book the whole property and have a GL Talk convention? :-) maybe not

Sure looks like a great place

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376306 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:14 -0400 Nini Tjäder http://golive.lassotalk.com/376306 Mac Os X 10.6.4 actually...

On 11 aug 2010, at 10.09, Nini Tjäder wrote:

> No problems. Mac OS X 10.6.3 in latest Safari and Firefox.


nini ;-)
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376305 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:09 -0400 Nini Tjäder http://golive.lassotalk.com/376305 No problems. Mac OS X 10.6.3 in latest Safari and Firefox.

(Beautiful place. Sure would like to stay in the Wisteria Suite....;) (or any of the other suites too actually))

On 11 aug 2010, at 00.25, Lee Helen W. wrote:

>
> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see if you can tell what might be causing this problem? It's a site which may sound familiar because I asked for help with positioning some pictures on it when I was first building it. It works perfectly for me on my Mac so maybe it's a PC thing, although I've checked it out in Win XP via Parallels and it works fine in both Firefox and IE.


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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376304 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:09 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376304 On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:

> http://baskoassoc.com/temp/vagabond-ie6-screen2.jpg
>
> yep, scroll bar is visible. only minor margin issues.

Thanks Jeff! I'll go and remove that line of code from all the pages. However, I see there is one not-so-minor margin issue I'll have to resolve and that's with the contact information which is supposed to be under the blue menu bar, not halfway off the page to the right. I know appreciably more about dealing with css now than I did when I built these pages, so hopefully I can fix everything without bothering the list again.

Thanks so much, Jeff.

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376303 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:22 -0400 Jeff Basko http://golive.lassotalk.com/376303 http://baskoassoc.com/temp/vagabond-ie6-screen2.jpg

yep, scroll bar is visible. only minor margin issues.


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: I need a site check, please


>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:
>
>> go ahead and post it. I keep IE6 around just for that reason.
>>
>> There remains small companies using IE6 in their intranets.
>
> Aha! That might explain it, although one of the companies was Corning and
> I would think they'd be more up-to-date than that!
>
> Anyway, I've removed the line and uploaded the file, so if you wouldn't
> mind checking it out I'd really appreciate it. Thanks Jeff!
>
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376302 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:09 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376302 On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:

> go ahead and post it. I keep IE6 around just for that reason.
>
> There remains small companies using IE6 in their intranets.

Aha! That might explain it, although one of the companies was Corning and I would think they'd be more up-to-date than that!

Anyway, I've removed the line and uploaded the file, so if you wouldn't mind checking it out I'd really appreciate it. Thanks Jeff!

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376301 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:06 -0400 Jeff Basko http://golive.lassotalk.com/376301 go ahead and post it. I keep IE6 around just for that reason.

There remains small companies using IE6 in their intranets.

JB


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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: I need a site check, please


>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:
>
>> should be ok to remove <?xml statement. can always put back.
>
> True. :>)
>
>> IE6 screen shot:
>>
>> http://baskoassoc.com/temp/vagabond-ie6-screen.jpg
>
> Well, it certainly would appear that there are no scroll bars on that page
> and I guess if one had never seen what it's *supposed* to look like it
> wouldn't look broken ... if one is half blind. <G>
>
> If I remove the line of code and upload the page, would you mind taking
> another look to see if that fixes the problem, please? I have iE 8 in my
> version of XP.
>
> I'd say I'd just ignore it, since a recent thread implied that people
> aren't supporting IE 6 any more but obviously a lot of people who visit
> this site are antiquated, as there have been about 10 or so complaints
> about it not scrolling. Not a lot in the whole realm of things but enough
> to make the client concerned.
>
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376300 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:53 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376300 On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:

> should be ok to remove <?xml statement. can always put back.

True. :>)

> IE6 screen shot:
>
> http://baskoassoc.com/temp/vagabond-ie6-screen.jpg

Well, it certainly would appear that there are no scroll bars on that page and I guess if one had never seen what it's *supposed* to look like it wouldn't look broken ... if one is half blind. <G>

If I remove the line of code and upload the page, would you mind taking another look to see if that fixes the problem, please? I have iE 8 in my version of XP.

I'd say I'd just ignore it, since a recent thread implied that people aren't supporting IE 6 any more but obviously a lot of people who visit this site are antiquated, as there have been about 10 or so complaints about it not scrolling. Not a lot in the whole realm of things but enough to make the client concerned.

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376299 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:42 -0400 Jeff Basko http://golive.lassotalk.com/376299 should be ok to remove <?xml statement. can always put back.

IE6 screen shot:

http://baskoassoc.com/temp/vagabond-ie6-screen.jpg



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: I need a site check, please


>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:
>
>> The layout falls apart rather badly in IE6 on WinXP.
>>
>> It might be your <?xml statement proceeding the doc type. IE6 is fussy
>> about requiring Doc Type statements as the first line.
>
> Thanks Jeff. I'll take a look at that but nobody who has complained has
> said that the layout falls apart, per se. They just say they can't scroll,
> which I think is really strange.
>
> ... Just took a look. The line you refer to is "<?xml version="1.0"
> encoding="utf-8"?>" and I don't even know where it came from. Can I safely
> delete it? I've looked at other pages I've created for other sites (which
> work just fine) and there is nothing similar on them. I hesitate to remove
> the line in case it makes the situation worse.
>
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376298 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:30 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376298 On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Jeff Basko wrote:

> The layout falls apart rather badly in IE6 on WinXP.
>
> It might be your <?xml statement proceeding the doc type. IE6 is fussy about requiring Doc Type statements as the first line.

Thanks Jeff. I'll take a look at that but nobody who has complained has said that the layout falls apart, per se. They just say they can't scroll, which I think is really strange.

.... Just took a look. The line you refer to is "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>" and I don't even know where it came from. Can I safely delete it? I've looked at other pages I've created for other sites (which work just fine) and there is nothing similar on them. I hesitate to remove the line in case it makes the situation worse.

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376297 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:04 -0400 Jeff Basko http://golive.lassotalk.com/376297 The layout falls apart rather badly in IE6 on WinXP.

It might be your <?xml statement proceeding the doc type. IE6 is fussy about
requiring Doc Type statements as the first line.

Jeff


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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: I need a site check, please


>
> Hi all
>
> A site I built a while ago is having issues and for the life of me I can't
> figure out why. It appears to work fine for people who are at home but if
> they try from their office (presumably in large companies or a .edu addy)
> they say they can't scroll around the pages.
>
> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see if you
> can tell what might be causing this problem? It's a site which may sound
> familiar because I asked for help with positioning some pictures on it
> when I was first building it. It works perfectly for me on my Mac so maybe
> it's a PC thing, although I've checked it out in Win XP via Parallels and
> it works fine in both Firefox and IE.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376296 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:23 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376296 On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Dougs Art wrote:

> No problem here. Mac Firefox , Safari, Opera all OK.

Thanks Doug. I'm thinking it's a Windows problem and sure hope someone on the list *has* the problem so I can figure out what needs fixing. This is so bizarre!

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Re: OT: recommendations for a PHP/MySQL tool http://golive.lassotalk.com/376295 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:22 -0400 Rev. Steve Willis http://golive.lassotalk.com/376295 Oops! Forgot. They use ASP.
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On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Rev. Steve Willis wrote:

> Back in the day when I was running a commercial site, we used MonsterCommerce.
>
> Dunno how they are now, but back then they didn't suck.
>
> HTH!
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> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:48 PM, John H. Lincoln wrote:
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>> Sorry for the OT, butÂ…
>>
>> I have a client looking for an eCommerce site. A good solution would be canned PHP/MySQL tool that will allow:
>>
>> • user account Creation, Signup and Login;
>>
>> • Admin access to maintain files;
>>
>> • user submission of graphic images;
>>
>> • shopping cart for purchase of graphic images;
>>
>> • SSL online payment system;
>>
>> • accounting system to track sales activity, per account;
>>
>> • update of order status;
>>
>> • configurable via HTML.
>>
>>
>> Not being tuned in to that marketplace, I'm hoping you can shine a light in the darkness.
>>
>> Many thanks and TIA.
>>
>> John
>> ---------------------
>> John H. Lincoln
>> Digital Media Designer
>> Fornalutx, Mallorca, SPAIN
>>
>> http://www.cubicarts.com
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Re: OT: recommendations for a PHP/MySQL tool http://golive.lassotalk.com/376294 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:13 -0400 Rev. Steve Willis http://golive.lassotalk.com/376294 Back in the day when I was running a commercial site, we used MonsterCommerce.

Dunno how they are now, but back then they didn't suck.

HTH!

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On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:48 PM, John H. Lincoln wrote:

> Sorry for the OT, butÂ…
>
> I have a client looking for an eCommerce site. A good solution would be canned PHP/MySQL tool that will allow:
>
> • user account Creation, Signup and Login;
>
> • Admin access to maintain files;
>
> • user submission of graphic images;
>
> • shopping cart for purchase of graphic images;
>
> • SSL online payment system;
>
> • accounting system to track sales activity, per account;
>
> • update of order status;
>
> • configurable via HTML.
>
>
> Not being tuned in to that marketplace, I'm hoping you can shine a light in the darkness.
>
> Many thanks and TIA.
>
> John
> ---------------------
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> Digital Media Designer
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376293 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:12 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376293 No problem here. Mac Firefox , Safari, Opera all OK.

Doug


On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Lee Helen W. wrote:

>
> Hi all
>
> A site I built a while ago is having issues and for the life of me I
> can't figure out why. It appears to work fine for people who are at
> home but if they try from their office (presumably in large
> companies or a .edu addy) they say they can't scroll around the pages.
>
> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see
> if you can tell what might be causing this problem? It's a site
> which may sound familiar because I asked for help with positioning
> some pictures on it when I was first building it. It works perfectly
> for me on my Mac so maybe it's a PC thing, although I've checked it
> out in Win XP via Parallels and it works fine in both Firefox and IE.
>
> Thanks!
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OT: recommendations for a PHP/MySQL tool http://golive.lassotalk.com/376292 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:48 -0400 John H. Lincoln http://golive.lassotalk.com/376292 Sorry for the OT, butÂ…

I have a client looking for an eCommerce site. A good solution would
be canned PHP/MySQL tool that will allow:

• user account Creation, Signup and Login;

• Admin access to maintain files;

• user submission of graphic images;

• shopping cart for purchase of graphic images;

• SSL online payment system;

• accounting system to track sales activity, per account;

• update of order status;

• configurable via HTML.


Not being tuned in to that marketplace, I'm hoping you can shine a
light in the darkness.

Many thanks and TIA.

John
---------------------
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Digital Media Designer
Fornalutx, Mallorca, SPAIN

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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376291 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:21 -0400 John Snippe http://golive.lassotalk.com/376291 On 6-Aug-10, at 8:11 AM, Craig de Fasselle wrote:

> <?php include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/your-menu-file.php'); ?>


I built h2only.ca using that code bit ... it's just too easy!
Basically the only actual data on a particular page is the data that
is specific to that page... everything else is dragged in via include
files, many of which are nested. Makes page creation very simple (I
work with a base template file, and "save as...", and of course, site-
wide basic changes take moments... much like CSS, but at the file level.

I keep promising myself to create a downloadable .zip package of this
sol (even have the readme 3/4 done),... but time is never sufficient.
This winter. I promise. Remind me! ;-)
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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376290 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:16 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376290 On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Jerry Smith wrote:

> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Keith Parks wrote:
>
>>>>> I'm in an .edu domain, we have a T3 (or something like that) connection, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, no scrolling problems seen here. Windows: IE7 and FF, Mac: Safari and FF.
>>>>>
>
> Okay in Google Chrome on my Mac.

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376289 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:13 -0400 Jerry Smith http://golive.lassotalk.com/376289 On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Keith Parks wrote:

>>>> I'm in an .edu domain, we have a T3 (or something like that) connection, I think.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, no scrolling problems seen here. Windows: IE7 and FF, Mac: Safari and FF.
>>>>

Okay in Google Chrome on my Mac.

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376288 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:29 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376288 On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Keith Parks wrote:

> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Lee Helen W. wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> A site I built a while ago is having issues and for the life of me I can't figure out why. It appears to work fine for people who are at home but if they try from their office (presumably in large companies or a .edu addy) they say they can't scroll around the pages.
>>
>> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see if you can tell what might be causing this problem?
>
> I'm in an .edu domain, we have a T3 (or something like that) connection, I think.
>
> Anyway, no scrolling problems seen here. Windows: IE7 and FF, Mac: Safari and FF.
>
> Just as a side note, in IE7 I *do* see a bit of an indent issue with list items within your right-side light green sidebar. The bullets don't show, and the items hang out too far to the left, sticking out beyond the background color.
>
> But, like I said, it scrolls fine!

Thanks, Keith. Hopefully others will try, have a problem and be able to tell me the solution. :>) It's pretty hard to fix something when you don't know where it's broken!

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Re: I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376287 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 04:05 -0400 Keith Parks http://golive.lassotalk.com/376287 On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Lee Helen W. wrote:

>
> Hi all
>
> A site I built a while ago is having issues and for the life of me I
> can't figure out why. It appears to work fine for people who are at
> home but if they try from their office (presumably in large
> companies or a .edu addy) they say they can't scroll around the pages.
>
> Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see
> if you can tell what might be causing this problem?

I'm in an .edu domain, we have a T3 (or something like that)
connection, I think.

Anyway, no scrolling problems seen here. Windows: IE7 and FF, Mac:
Safari and FF.

Just as a side note, in IE7 I *do* see a bit of an indent issue with
list items within your right-side light green sidebar. The bullets
don't show, and the items hang out too far to the left, sticking out
beyond the background color.

But, like I said, it scrolls fine!

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Student Affairs Communications Services
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I need a site check, please http://golive.lassotalk.com/376286 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:25 -0400 Lee Helen W. http://golive.lassotalk.com/376286 Hi all

A site I built a while ago is having issues and for the life of me I can't figure out why. It appears to work fine for people who are at home but if they try from their office (presumably in large companies or a .edu addy) they say they can't scroll around the pages.

Could someone please take a look at www.thevagabondinn.com and see if you can tell what might be causing this problem? It's a site which may sound familiar because I asked for help with positioning some pictures on it when I was first building it. It works perfectly for me on my Mac so maybe it's a PC thing, although I've checked it out in Win XP via Parallels and it works fine in both Firefox and IE.

Thanks!

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376285 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:22 -0400 Nini Tjäder http://golive.lassotalk.com/376285 You don
't have to have the tiny keyboard. There are alternative full size ones.

On 10 aug 2010, at 20.50, cad wrote:

> I'm not fond of the tiny keyboard


nini ;-)
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376284 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:20 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376284 On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:13 PM, David Miers wrote:
[------]
> If you had for example configured iphoto or bridge to store images
> on a different drive you would have likely gotten an error, but
> "scratch disk" that seems kinda weird.

Unless it has fleas.

Doug


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376283 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:13 -0400 David Miers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376283 That error doesn't exactly make sense, but if your friend is a music and video editor there are almost certainly external drives hooked to this computer. They could have been ejected and thus not available for use. It's my common practice to eject external drives as well since I've found myself waiting for them to spin up even though what I'm doing has nothing to do with them.

If you had for example configured iphoto or bridge to store images on a different drive you would have likely gotten an error, but "scratch disk" that seems kinda weird.
On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, cad wrote:

> The one thing I learned on my visit last week is even thought it's a Mac it still requires housekeeping. I couldn't copy images from my digital camera to the computer because the scratch disk was almost full.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... The iMac 27" http://golive.lassotalk.com/376282 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:50 -0400 cad http://golive.lassotalk.com/376282 Regarding 27 inch iMacs, a friend who does video editing and music
recording bought one recently. I apartment sit for him occasionally, and the
first time I encountered this machine I thought it was just a huge monitor.
I'm like, Holy cow, what is this?" I touched the mouse and the monitor came
alive. I looked for the computer in vain, then later he told me it 'was' the
computer. Good think he had it in sleep mode because the on switch is well
hidden. I'm not fond of the tiny keyboard, but the design of the mouse is
much better than prior ones.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30817848&l=61e7a4f061&id=1147125556

The one thing I learned on my visit last week is even thought it's a Mac it
still requires housekeeping. I couldn't copy images from my digital camera
to the computer because the scratch disk was almost full. I ended up going
directly from my camera to a USB drive. It would be more convenient if the
USB ports were on the front, but that would ruin the aesthetics. The monitor
is definitely impressive, and using the iMac is a good exercise in
remembering how to use a Mac. I'm a PC ;- )

Carol


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376281 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:23 -0400 Richard McLean http://golive.lassotalk.com/376281 On 10/08/2010, at 3:07 AM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:

>> Yep, having a penchant for adding PCI cards would seem to be the mitigating factor.
>
> Indeed. But I'd still maintain that for most folks, myself included, a maxed out (RAM) iMac, mini or MacBook Pro will do the job just fine.



The main difference with the Mini is the video card, in that it doesn't actually have one, and that it uses an integrated chip instead. With a lot of the image processing now being done by the GPU on the video card, you'll often get better performance from an iMac, MacBook Pro, or Mac Pro, than you will from a Mini. While that is improving as the integrated video improves, there is still a big difference between the two, which *may* mean that some workflows are slower on the Mini than on the others.


On 09/08/2010, at 11:08 AM, Jerry Smith wrote:
> I've been using a 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 for a couple of months, and it is wicked fast and capable!


Quad-Core i5 here and I'd agree 100%. Also, if you are looking for a great deal, check the refurbished section of the Apple store, there are often great bargains there for refurbished but fully warrantied Macs.


cheers,
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376280 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:09 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376280 (Laff)

On Aug 9, 2010, at 4:19 PM, francis newman wrote:

> Doug
>
> Live Picture was acquired by MGI which ceased development, and in
> turn MGI became Roxio and they just weren't interested in that sort
> of thing.

Interesting.

> There is still a "dwindling" band of Live Picture users (I myself
> used it for many years) but its use becomes increasingly difficult,
> requiring a PowerPC box running Classic. I do still have such a
> machine myself but haven't booted it up in over a year. But the Live
> Picture list still continues (much as this one does after the demise
> of GoLive) with a bunch of old buddies keeping up with each other
> and chewing the cud over things old and new.

And when our grandkids are sitting on our knees and ask, "Opa, what
was GoLive?" we might have trouble explaining it but we'll still be
Old Buddies.

:-)

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376279 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:19 -0400 francis newman http://golive.lassotalk.com/376279 Doug

Live Picture was acquired by MGI which ceased development, and in turn MGI became Roxio and they just weren't interested in that sort of thing. There is still a "dwindling" band of Live Picture users (I myself used it for many years) but its use becomes increasingly difficult, requiring a PowerPC box running Classic. I do still have such a machine myself but haven't booted it up in over a year. But the Live Picture list still continues (much as this one does after the demise of GoLive) with a bunch of old buddies keeping up with each other and chewing the cud over things old and new.

Best

Francis

>
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Martin Sammtleben wrote:
>
>> At 11:14 -0700, 9/8/10, Dougs Art wrote:
>>> Then he came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image editor again.
>>
>> It has always puzzled me when promising applications just disappear.
>
> Me, too.
>>
>> For instance in the image editing field there were Live Picture
>
> I had LivePicture. Never figured out the strange interface, but I went one night to a demo at some graphics school in Berzerkely by a couple of dyed in the wool Berzerkles who thought it was the cat's whiskers and could really make it dance on the big screen.
>
>> and Macromedia's Xres.
>
>> Both had some unique features and far surpassed PS in editing huge files, if I remember correctly.
>>
>
> I had Xrez, too. And it had some features that I liked a lot better than Photoshop. One I remember, was a gif editor that let you go in and change any of the 256 colors piecemeal ... which was very handy when you were working on a web safe illustration for example. You could really keep the kb's down in the days when that could be a killer.
>
>> Never heard from either again.
>
> I think LivePicture just quietly bit the dust, and Macromedia just quit developing Xrez about the same time they dropped Fontographer. It was probably a profitability thing.
>
> Doug
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376278 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:08 -0400 Martin Sammtleben http://golive.lassotalk.com/376278 At 11:48 -0700, 9/8/10, Dougs Art wrote:
>I think LivePicture just quietly bit the dust, and Macromedia just
>quit developing Xrez about the same time they dropped Fontographer.
>It was probably a profitability thing.

Or a big company bought them just to get hold of all their patents
and let the actual products die.

We as the end users only get to see the tips of the ice bergs.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376277 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:14 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376277 On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
> [-------] In a very real sense, you're using the legacy of NeXTstep
> every day.

Wa'l I swan.

Thanks.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376276 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:48 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376276 On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Martin Sammtleben wrote:

> At 11:14 -0700, 9/8/10, Dougs Art wrote:
>> Then he came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image
>> editor again.
>
> It has always puzzled me when promising applications just disappear.

Me, too.
>
> For instance in the image editing field there were Live Picture

I had LivePicture. Never figured out the strange interface, but I
went one night to a demo at some graphics school in Berzerkely by a
couple of dyed in the wool Berzerkles who thought it was the cat's
whiskers and could really make it dance on the big screen.

> and Macromedia's Xres.

> Both had some unique features and far surpassed PS in editing huge
> files, if I remember correctly.
>

I had Xrez, too. And it had some features that I liked a lot better
than Photoshop. One I remember, was a gif editor that let you go in
and change any of the 256 colors piecemeal ... which was very handy
when you were working on a web safe illustration for example. You
could really keep the kb's down in the days when that could be a
killer.

> Never heard from either again.

I think LivePicture just quietly bit the dust, and Macromedia just
quit developing Xrez about the same time they dropped Fontographer.
It was probably a profitability thing.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376275 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:40 -0400 Miles A Cruickshank http://golive.lassotalk.com/376275 On 9 Aug 2010, at 19:14, Dougs Art wrote:


>
> NextStep, as I recall, was something Steve Jobs came up with when he had gotten bounced out of Apple for some raisin I forget. Then he came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image editor again.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. ;-)

The first web browser was created on NeXT, and many principles established then have survived in OS X, including the Dock for instance.

NeXT also created the idea of allowing third-party developers to 'tap in' to the underlying OS technologies, which lives on in the ideas of the 'Core' libraries in OS X which is essentially what allows the likes of the guys at Pixelmator to create astonishingly polished and capable apps, way beyond what they could produce with their resources if they had to create everything from scratch.

In a very real sense, you're using the legacy of NeXTstep every day.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376274 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:38 -0400 Rev. Steve Willis http://golive.lassotalk.com/376274 If you are using a Mac nowadays, you are using the latest version of NextStep: MacOS X. Apple buying Next to get NextStep was how Jobs came back on board and positioned him for the palace coup that got him back at the helm of the company.

Photoshop CS5 runs 64-bit, but running it that way eliminates your ability to use most of the plugins available for it, at lease until the filter vendors rewrite their products for 64-bit mode.

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On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Dougs Art wrote:

>
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
>>
>> [[------]]
>> Photoshop's a long way off being the most processor-challenging app you can run on a Mac these days, and if Adobe ever get their fingers out of their butts and build an OS X 64 bit version on a clean rather than antique code base that'll be even more true.
>
> Which reminds me, way back, years ago, I came across a semi-quasi-pseudo Photoshop-like image editor demo at some university that as I remember was quite impressive. The author of it lamented that unfortunately, it would never be a competitor for Photoshop, because it was built on the NextStep operating system, which had made it comparatively easy to create.
>
> NextStep, as I recall, was something Steve Jobs came up with when he had gotten bounced out of Apple for some raisin I forget. Then he came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image editor again.
>
> Doug
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376273 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:33 -0400 Martin Sammtleben http://golive.lassotalk.com/376273 At 11:14 -0700, 9/8/10, Dougs Art wrote:
>Then he came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image editor again.

It has always puzzled me when promising applications just disappear.

For instance in the image editing field there were Live Picture and
Macromedia's Xres. Both had some unique features and far surpassed PS
in editing huge files, if I remember correctly.

Never heard from either again.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376272 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:14 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376272 On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
>
> [[------]]
> Photoshop's a long way off being the most processor-challenging app
> you can run on a Mac these days, and if Adobe ever get their fingers
> out of their butts and build an OS X 64 bit version on a clean
> rather than antique code base that'll be even more true.

Which reminds me, way back, years ago, I came across a semi-quasi-
pseudo Photoshop-like image editor demo at some university that as I
remember was quite impressive. The author of it lamented that
unfortunately, it would never be a competitor for Photoshop, because
it was built on the NextStep operating system, which had made it
comparatively easy to create.

NextStep, as I recall, was something Steve Jobs came up with when he
had gotten bounced out of Apple for some raisin I forget. Then he
came back, but I never heard of NextStep or that image editor again.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376271 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:05 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376271 On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
>
> What they see on your screen's not the issue. It's *their* screen
> which scares the shit out of me...
>
> <http://www.flyingsolo.co.uk/read-0510-your-screen-or-mine.html>

Yeah... I've been shocked by that a few times, too. But they didn't
seem to notice how horrible it looked,

:-)

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376270 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:07 -0400 Miles A Cruickshank http://golive.lassotalk.com/376270 On 9 Aug 2010, at 02:08, Jerry Smith wrote:
>
> Yep, having a penchant for adding PCI cards would seem to be the mitigating factor.

Indeed. But I'd still maintain that for most folks, myself included, a maxed out (RAM) iMac, mini or MacBook Pro will do the job just fine.

I moved from a first generation (Core Duo) Mac Pro to third generation Mac Pro (Nehalem quad core) and while it's a bit faster, it's not life-changing. (A large part of my motivation in doing so was to be able to use video cards which support the Mini DisplayPort).

I know a couple of folks in pro music/video production who do need fully tricked out Mac Pros with maximum everything, but in their context some of the third party video/audio cards cost pretty much the same as the Mac itself, so you can easily get to 5 figures for their workstations.

Photoshop's a long way off being the most processor-challenging app you can run on a Mac these days, and if Adobe ever get their fingers out of their butts and build an OS X 64 bit version on a clean rather than antique code base that'll be even more true.



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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376269 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:51 -0400 Miles A Cruickshank http://golive.lassotalk.com/376269 On 9 Aug 2010, at 16:53, Dougs Art wrote:
>>
>
> Easy.
>
> If you don't show them your screen, they won't know what they are missing.

Not so easy.

What they see on your screen's not the issue. It's *their* screen which scares the shit out of me...

<http://www.flyingsolo.co.uk/read-0510-your-screen-or-mine.html>



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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376268 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:53 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376268 On Aug 9, 2010, at 2:04 AM, Anton Staartjes wrote:

> It's posible to have the best of both worlds: what to say about an
> Eizo screen and a Mini!
> Downside is that the clients expect the same quality of colors on
> their own screens and that always fails.
>
> anton

Easy.

If you don't show them your screen, they won't know what they are
missing.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376267 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:04 -0400 Anton Staartjes http://golive.lassotalk.com/376267 It's posible to have the best of both worlds: what to say about an
Eizo screen and a Mini!
Downside is that the clients expect the same quality of colors on
their own screens and that always fails.

anton

>
> Maybe that would be okay for some, but I like looking at my Apple
> products
> as much as I like using them! :)
>
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376266 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 06:08 -0400 Jerry Smith http://golive.lassotalk.com/376266 On Aug 8, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:

>>> Main reason for anyone buying a Mac Pro is to stuff it with various specialist/video cards

Yep, having a penchant for adding PCI cards would seem to be the mitigating factor.

I've been using a 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 for a couple of months, and it is wicked fast and capable! In fact, I had to remove the Finder's quit capability, as I was constantly inadvertently quitting it when quitting other open apps. It would zip right through 2-3 apps to the Finder.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376265 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 05:46 -0400 Rick Faaberg http://golive.lassotalk.com/376265 On 8/8/10 4:53 PM, "Anton Staartjes" <antonstaartjes@mac.com> sent this:

> maybe this is an idea: a mac Mini and a 'good' screen fixed together
> with this gadget from sonnet:
> http://www.sonnettech.com/product/maccuffmini.html
>
> anton

Maybe that would be okay for some, but I like looking at my Apple products
as much as I like using them! :)

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376264 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:54 -0400 Rev. Steve Willis http://golive.lassotalk.com/376264 Right after the Nehelem-processor Mac Pros were released, I blew a chunk of change on a BTO quad-core 2.66GHz model. Because I work for an Apple-certified educational institution, I bought it from the online education store at a nice discount (I don't remember how much I saved by buying educational, but it was significant).

I equipped it with 6GB of RAM, 2-1TB drives, dual NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 video cards, dual SuperDrives and AppleCare. Also got CS4 for a huge discount (online pkg deal with new CPU purchase). It came with Leopard and I've since updated to Snow Leopard.

Whole thing came in at about $3900.

After I purchased the system, I added an already existing 500GB eSATA drive to an internal bay for use as a BootCamp drive running WindowsXP under vmware Fusion. The second 1TB drive became my Time Machine drive (I also backup online to MobileMe).

To put it in perspective, I purchased my 867MHz G4 tower with 1GB RAM, 2-82GB drives and MacOS 9.2 in 2001 for right at $3000. I also purchased my first Mac, a 512K Fat Mac with MacOS 1.0 with an AppleWriter I dot-matrix printer and Lotus Jazz for $3000 in 1985.

Also, take into account the rate of inflation from 1985 until now and my Pro was a STEAL by comparison.

Monitor-wise, I have 2 HP w2207 1680x1050 flatscreens, which I got from Amazon for $200 and change each, purchased a few months prior to the Pro.

So as far as I'm concerned, the expenditure was WELL worth it. This Pro runs RINGS around ANY Mac I've ever used. I consistently run simultaneously CS5 Photoshop/DreamWeaver/Acrobat, MySQL Workbench, TextWrangler, Mail, Safari, Chrome, FireFox, Skype, and miscellaneous other apps as needed and it NEVER bogs. When I play graphics-intensive games, such as Half Life 2 or Halo, I can now always run them at the highest graphics- and sound-quality settings across the board.

Best $3800 I ever spent!

FWIWTY!

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On Aug 8, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Ramona Rock wrote:

> I've been asking myself some similar questions. (Not going to quote here,
> just the whole conversation.) I have an aging G5 too, and some increasingly
> larger Filemaker Pro databases. I don't need a new computer yet due to
> mechanical failure (knock on wood), but it's getting pretty slow-pokey with
> functions on those databases and I'm wondering how much faster a faster
> machine could do me for that.
>
> I think Miles said he had a psychological prejudice in favor of the Mac
> towers. Me too and then some, it's just what I've used for quite some time.
> I also have a several-years-old Cinema Display that still looks pretty fine
> to my eyeballs. I would guess the newer stand alone displays Apple offers
> now are even more fine, but I was imagining my next computer purchase would
> continue to use my still functioning monitor, and thus my overall situation
> would be cheaper and better than buying a new computer with a monitor
> built-in. ???
>
> But the new Mac Pros seem both wickedly and wackily expensive to me. The
> new Quad-Core starts at $2500, according to apple.com. And that's with the
> chip they're calling lesser (the 2.66Ghz instead of the 2.93 or 3.33), just
> one internal hard drive, and just slightly more RAM than I have in my
> several-years-old G5. If you beef up that bad boy with the best chip for
> that model, as much RAM as possible (and I have always assumed getting the
> most RAM and the best chip you can get with any new computer purchase is the
> way to go to stave off obsolescence as long as possible), and just one extra
> internal hard drive for backups, the smallest they offer, it's now almost 5
> grand.
>
> That's not even with larger hard drive capacity or extra graphics stuff.
>
> Sheesh!
>
> Memory might be failing me here, but I think that's more than I paid for my
> G5 back in the day.
>
> And obviously, I know this would be a superior computer to what I have now,
> but . . . isn't this stuff supposed to be getting a lil' cheaper? The
> technology related to the tiny stuff (ipads, iphones, ipods) certainly seems
> to be. What's up with the Mac Pros?
>
> And is this new "Nehalem" processor really THAT super fabulous?
>
> I'm just . . . befuddled.
>
> If I don't need extra monitors or really macho Photoshop whatever, what do
> peeps here think I might need for my next computer? What might be the best
> thing? Really, right now, my most important problem is slowness of large
> database operations with Filemaker Pro. I don't do much else currently
> that's severely intensive. I would LIKE a computer that can do whatever I
> want in the future, but that's my most immediate concern. It seems silly to
> me to buy a computer with a built-in monitor when I already have one, but I
> guess I could do that if the price really dictated it.
>
> I have attempted to do some research online, and the Macworld link was
> helpful, but if anyone has any idea about FM Pro stuff, that'd be cool. I'd
> actually rather the opinion of this list to other random stuff.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376263 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:53 -0400 Anton Staartjes http://golive.lassotalk.com/376263 maybe this is an idea: a mac Mini and a 'good' screen fixed together
with this gadget from sonnet:
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/maccuffmini.html

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Op 8 aug 2010, om 22:46 heeft Martin Sammtleben het volgende geschreven:

> At 21:05 +0100, 8/8/10, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
>> If I was starting again from scratch I'd buy a Mac mini
>
> The new Mini is a beautiful thing and a bit of a design/engineering
> marvel, minimised and condensed down to the essence of a computer.
>
> Paired with a nice monitor and maxed out RAM, it's a very capable
> machine indeed.
>
>
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376262 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:13 -0400 Ramona Rock http://golive.lassotalk.com/376262 I've been asking myself some similar questions. (Not going to quote here,
just the whole conversation.) I have an aging G5 too, and some increasingly
larger Filemaker Pro databases. I don't need a new computer yet due to
mechanical failure (knock on wood), but it's getting pretty slow-pokey with
functions on those databases and I'm wondering how much faster a faster
machine could do me for that.

I think Miles said he had a psychological prejudice in favor of the Mac
towers. Me too and then some, it's just what I've used for quite some time.
I also have a several-years-old Cinema Display that still looks pretty fine
to my eyeballs. I would guess the newer stand alone displays Apple offers
now are even more fine, but I was imagining my next computer purchase would
continue to use my still functioning monitor, and thus my overall situation
would be cheaper and better than buying a new computer with a monitor
built-in. ???

But the new Mac Pros seem both wickedly and wackily expensive to me. The
new Quad-Core starts at $2500, according to apple.com. And that's with the
chip they're calling lesser (the 2.66Ghz instead of the 2.93 or 3.33), just
one internal hard drive, and just slightly more RAM than I have in my
several-years-old G5. If you beef up that bad boy with the best chip for
that model, as much RAM as possible (and I have always assumed getting the
most RAM and the best chip you can get with any new computer purchase is the
way to go to stave off obsolescence as long as possible), and just one extra
internal hard drive for backups, the smallest they offer, it's now almost 5
grand.

That's not even with larger hard drive capacity or extra graphics stuff.

Sheesh!

Memory might be failing me here, but I think that's more than I paid for my
G5 back in the day.

And obviously, I know this would be a superior computer to what I have now,
but . . . isn't this stuff supposed to be getting a lil' cheaper? The
technology related to the tiny stuff (ipads, iphones, ipods) certainly seems
to be. What's up with the Mac Pros?

And is this new "Nehalem" processor really THAT super fabulous?

I'm just . . . befuddled.

If I don't need extra monitors or really macho Photoshop whatever, what do
peeps here think I might need for my next computer? What might be the best
thing? Really, right now, my most important problem is slowness of large
database operations with Filemaker Pro. I don't do much else currently
that's severely intensive. I would LIKE a computer that can do whatever I
want in the future, but that's my most immediate concern. It seems silly to
me to buy a computer with a built-in monitor when I already have one, but I
guess I could do that if the price really dictated it.

I have attempted to do some research online, and the Macworld link was
helpful, but if anyone has any idea about FM Pro stuff, that'd be cool. I'd
actually rather the opinion of this list to other random stuff.

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376261 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:46 -0400 Martin Sammtleben http://golive.lassotalk.com/376261 At 21:05 +0100, 8/8/10, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
>If I was starting again from scratch I'd buy a Mac mini

The new Mini is a beautiful thing and a bit of a design/engineering
marvel, minimised and condensed down to the essence of a computer.

Paired with a nice monitor and maxed out RAM, it's a very capable
machine indeed.


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Re: Webassist follow up http://golive.lassotalk.com/376260 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:18 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376260 On 8/8/10 4:17 PM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
> Post rant, it seems WA has reverted its position totally.
>
> Guess p****** off customers are heard yet in this world.
>
>
sorry... reversed...
long week... *sigh*

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Webassist follow up http://golive.lassotalk.com/376259 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:17 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376259 Post rant, it seems WA has reverted its position totally.

Guess p****** off customers are heard yet in this world.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376258 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:13 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376258 On 8/7/10 11:30 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>
>
> A semi related question: if my G5 died, I can't deactivate the serial
> number. The only way I could get DW CS4 to launch was to deactivate on
> G4. However, so far, only DW is showing this problem. Indesign was fine.
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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376257 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:09 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376257 On 8/8/10 4:05 PM, Miles A Cruickshank wrote:
> On 8 Aug 2010, at 19:51, Martin Sammtleben wrote:
>
>> Their conclusion was, that most professional users should be more than happy with the iMac - stuff it with memory and off you go.
>>
>> Personally I doubt, I will ever buy a desktop/tower again. For what I do, the Mac Book Pros are more than adequate.
> Yup. I have a Nehalem Mac Pro with 10GB RAM, but in many respects that just shows I'm stuck in my ways.
>
> My days of real 'f***-off heavy lifting' in Photoshop are pretty much long gone, bar the odd graphic for a display panel.
>
> Main reason for anyone buying a Mac Pro is to stuff it with various specialist/video cards ( I run 3 monitors, one 24", two 23" Cinema Displays - but even then that's largely a legacy from wanting to have multiple palettes open in Adobe apps).
>
> Other factor is multiple HDs, the Mac Pro has 4, one SSD boot drive, one Photoshop scratch disk (again, old habits die hard) and two for storage, with a 4 bay Drobo for good measure.
>
>
> But to be honest, any current iMac would be perfectly adequate for what I do, especially given one can now use a second monitor to extend your desktop.
>
> If I was starting again from scratch I'd buy a Mac mini (it's not a mini-mac, that's a small burger) and a big monitor or two if I was on a budget, or a mid-range and up MacBook Pro.
>
> In truth I just have, I use a 2010 Mac mini with 8GB of RAM as a music player, and to be honest that would be fine for my professional needs. Leave any G5 in the dust on Photoshop. Only limitation of the mini (theoretically) is 5400rpm drives in the standard version, but I doubt it's that significant in practice.
>
>
> Couple of professional photographers I know have recently moved to 17" MacBook Pro and 27" iMac form G4 and G5 respectively, which they're retaining to use with legacy large format printer/scanners - you can't jam a SCSI card in an iMac, both are delighted with new hardware performance.
>
> As Martin suggests, get any new Mac and stuff it with RAM, it'll be fine.
>
>
Thanks Miles... sorry about mini-mac Mac mini typo! :-)

forwarding to my colleague who is still on the fence..



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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376256 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:05 -0400 Miles A Cruickshank http://golive.lassotalk.com/376256 On 8 Aug 2010, at 19:51, Martin Sammtleben wrote:

> Their conclusion was, that most professional users should be more than happy with the iMac - stuff it with memory and off you go.
>
> Personally I doubt, I will ever buy a desktop/tower again. For what I do, the Mac Book Pros are more than adequate.

Yup. I have a Nehalem Mac Pro with 10GB RAM, but in many respects that just shows I'm stuck in my ways.

My days of real 'f***-off heavy lifting' in Photoshop are pretty much long gone, bar the odd graphic for a display panel.

Main reason for anyone buying a Mac Pro is to stuff it with various specialist/video cards ( I run 3 monitors, one 24", two 23" Cinema Displays - but even then that's largely a legacy from wanting to have multiple palettes open in Adobe apps).

Other factor is multiple HDs, the Mac Pro has 4, one SSD boot drive, one Photoshop scratch disk (again, old habits die hard) and two for storage, with a 4 bay Drobo for good measure.


But to be honest, any current iMac would be perfectly adequate for what I do, especially given one can now use a second monitor to extend your desktop.

If I was starting again from scratch I'd buy a Mac mini (it's not a mini-mac, that's a small burger) and a big monitor or two if I was on a budget, or a mid-range and up MacBook Pro.

In truth I just have, I use a 2010 Mac mini with 8GB of RAM as a music player, and to be honest that would be fine for my professional needs. Leave any G5 in the dust on Photoshop. Only limitation of the mini (theoretically) is 5400rpm drives in the standard version, but I doubt it's that significant in practice.


Couple of professional photographers I know have recently moved to 17" MacBook Pro and 27" iMac form G4 and G5 respectively, which they're retaining to use with legacy large format printer/scanners - you can't jam a SCSI card in an iMac, both are delighted with new hardware performance.

As Martin suggests, get any new Mac and stuff it with RAM, it'll be fine.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376255 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:02 -0400 Martin Sammtleben http://golive.lassotalk.com/376255 Not the one I saw at the time, but same conclusion:
<http://www.macworld.com/reviews/product/343881/review/27inch_imac_core_i5266ghz.html>

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376254 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:51 -0400 Martin Sammtleben http://golive.lassotalk.com/376254 At 11:01 -0700, 8/8/10, Dougs Art wrote:
>And the iMac is more computer already than the G5 I currently own.

A while ago I came across a performance comparison iMac vs Mac Pro.
The Mac Pro only ever had a distinct advantage for extremely
processor intensive tasks such as rendering digital video. Actually
it was marginally outperformed by the iMac in a few tests.
Their conclusion was, that most professional users should be more
than happy with the iMac - stuff it with memory and off you go.

Personally I doubt, I will ever buy a desktop/tower again. For what I
do, the Mac Book Pros are more than adequate.


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376253 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:26 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376253 On 8/8/10 2:01 PM, Dougs Art wrote:
>
> Well, it's pretty good for a girl. :-)

lol

>
>
> Besides, I really want to get me a 24 inch wide printer, and those
> things don't come cheap.
I have a HP 1220C which handles up to 19" (I think) sheets... Use it for
proofs for larger projects and has stood the test of time over last 10
years or so... Reminds me, haven't tested with new Mac Pro...hmmm... one
more for the check list.

Quick check online showing used for $100...




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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376252 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:01 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376252 On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:

> On 8/8/10 11:30 AM, Dougs Art wrote:
[-----]
>>
>>
>> Looking at the new 27 inch iMacs, which are so far beyond my G5, I
>> don't see any good reason to go for a Mac Pro I have a 30" display
>> that I wanted to keep using, so iMac, with screen wasn't of interest.

Well, that's a convincing raisin. I'd do the same.

>> I always like to get the most machine I can afford. Psychological,
>> I guess. [---]

Me too. "Can afford" is the controlling term in my case.
[-----]
> Hope that helps... probably not... :-)

Well, it's pretty good for a girl. :-)

No, really, given your situation, I'd do the same. I don't have a 30"
Apple display, and as they have discontinued them, and they are kind
of expensive, I am not planing on trying to grab one of the last ones
on the shelf. The 27 inch is appreciably bigger than I have not (24
") and it seems to be much better quality. And the iMac is more
computer already than the G5 I currently own.

Besides, I really want to get me a 24 inch wide printer, and those
things don't come cheap. I missed a deal on an Epson 7800 in San
Francisco ... a photographer there let it go for $750 pick up only,
and SF is only 84 miles from here, but I was too slow. I just stared
at the screen while somebody put in the last bid and got it. Been
looking ever since but nothing like that has come up. I'm surprised
she let it go for that price. Been looking at smaller printers, but
they just aren't what I want. I think a 27 inch iMac and an Epson
7800 would be real nice.

:-)

Thanks for the info, and it was really helpful.

Doug


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376251 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:54 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376251 On 8/8/10 11:30 AM, Dougs Art wrote:
>
> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:
>
>> I'm setting up a new mac pro with snow leopard.
>
> Hi, Patrice ... I don't know the answer to your question, but it
> arouses one of mine, since my G5 is getting long in the tooth.
>
> Looking at the new 27 inch iMacs, which are so far beyond my G5, I
> don't see any good reason to go for a Mac Pro this time. I have 2
> drives in my G5, a 1 TB and a 500 GB, but frankly I have never
> needed them both. And with the iMac 27 inch I won't have to buy a
> monitor, too. (Not completely happy with the Samsung 24 inch monitor I
> have now.)
>
> Maybe the reasons for your choice would be good education. I think you
> tend to research things rather thoroughly.
>
> Doug
>
>
I have a 30" display that I wanted to keep using, so iMac, with screen
wasn't of interest. I always like to get the most machine I can afford.
Psychological, I guess. When I bought the G5, I walked into the Apple
store and said "give me the biggest baddest machine you have... " Since
it runs all day, every day, and is a workhorse, I just want as much as I
can afford. This purchase was pending, but since I was forced into it a
bit earlier than I had planned, it's not as tricked out as it could be,
but I think it will be fine.

My research wasn't that indepth. I found what I wanted, or thought would
be a good match, and then checked with fellow mac users who do print and
web work, and found that they also purchased mac pro, so that was very
comforting.

One colleague who is also about to buy a new intel, was looking at the
mini-mac. But just the name of it put me off! :-) Another colleague
suggested that the mini mac didn't handle heavy photoshop work well, and
my colleague, who is print and heavy into PS, appreciated that heads up
and is continuing her search and decision making process.

Hope that helps... probably not... :-)

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376250 Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:30 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376250 On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:

> I'm setting up a new mac pro with snow leopard.

Hi, Patrice ... I don't know the answer to your question, but it
arouses one of mine, since my G5 is getting long in the tooth.

Looking at the new 27 inch iMacs, which are so far beyond my G5, I
don't see any good reason to go for a Mac Pro this time. I have 2
drives in my G5, a 1 TB and a 500 GB, but frankly I have never
needed them both. And with the iMac 27 inch I won't have to buy a
monitor, too. (Not completely happy with the Samsung 24 inch monitor I
have now.)

Maybe the reasons for your choice would be good education. I think you
tend to research things rather thoroughly.

Doug


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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376249 Sat, 07 Aug 2010 05:52 -0400 Jerry Smith http://golive.lassotalk.com/376249 On Aug 7, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Patrice Olivier-Wilson wrote:

>>>>
>>>> I migrated from the salvaged HD to new Mac Pro. 99% of stuff is working fine. GL6 is fine, but not GLCS2. And CS2 isn't on my G4, so only one serial activated.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try calling Adobe again. I was on hold for over an hour last night and gave up. But it is the weekend, I guess. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much
>>>>
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>>>> http://biz-comm.com

Patrice,

When I migrated to a new Mac a couple of months ago, I had to call Adobe to deactivate/reactivate GL9 (lots of trouble for a dead crappy app). They eventually got me back in business.

Jerry



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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376248 Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:49 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376248 On 8/7/10 11:46 AM, Craig de Fasselle wrote:
>> I'm setting up a new mac pro with snow leopard. GL 6 is behaving but
>> CS2 launches, then grays out, have to force quit... Any ideas? I've
>> reinstalled it.
> Did you install any newer version first? I discovered earlier this year
> that if you install any newer version first, earlier versions won't work.
>
>> A semi related question: if my G5 died, I can't deactivate the serial
>> number. The only way I could get DW CS4 to launch was to deactivate on
>> G4. However, so far, only DW is showing this problem. Indesign was fine.
> I had to call Adobe support to get them to deactivate and reactivate...
> even they had some issues, and finally had to send me an archive of new
> licensing files and instructions to get things to work.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Craig
>
Thanks Craig...

I migrated from the salvaged HD to new Mac Pro. 99% of stuff is working
fine. GL6 is fine, but not GLCS2. And CS2 isn't on my G4, so only one
serial activated.

I'll try calling Adobe again. I was on hold for over an hour last night
and gave up. But it is the weekend, I guess. :-(

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Re: An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376247 Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:46 -0400 Craig de Fasselle http://golive.lassotalk.com/376247 > I'm setting up a new mac pro with snow leopard. GL 6 is behaving but
>CS2 launches, then grays out, have to force quit... Any ideas? I've
>reinstalled it.

Did you install any newer version first? I discovered earlier this year
that if you install any newer version first, earlier versions won't work.

>A semi related question: if my G5 died, I can't deactivate the serial
>number. The only way I could get DW CS4 to launch was to deactivate on
>G4. However, so far, only DW is showing this problem. Indesign was fine.

I had to call Adobe support to get them to deactivate and reactivate...
even they had some issues, and finally had to send me an archive of new
licensing files and instructions to get things to work.

Hope this helps,
Craig


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An actual GoLive question for Mac folks... http://golive.lassotalk.com/376246 Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:30 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376246 I'm setting up a new mac pro with snow leopard. GL 6 is behaving but
CS2 launches, then grays out, have to force quit... Any ideas? I've
reinstalled it.

A semi related question: if my G5 died, I can't deactivate the serial
number. The only way I could get DW CS4 to launch was to deactivate on
G4. However, so far, only DW is showing this problem. Indesign was fine.

Patrice

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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376245 Sat, 07 Aug 2010 04:16 -0400 sc http://golive.lassotalk.com/376245 Have been using MenuMachine as an include in a ColdFusion CMS for years - without editing capabilities.

Just found that my CF programmer is able to work editing into ProjectVII menus and am using two of them on a project. He has the page headline become the menu item - placement is by page ranking and section selection ....

The original menu had to be created in DW - which still looks odd in GL when I jump back and forth between DW & GL - something I do quite often on each page.... but is workable ... do-able. Would not expect this to work in a non-custom CMS like Cushy...

S

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On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Craig de Fasselle wrote:

>> You can do this with an include? How?
>
> You simply place your include snippet where you want the menu to appear
> in the page. Assuming your server supports php, your include would looks
> something like this:
>
> <?php include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/your-menu-file.php'); ?>
>
> If you want html pages to execute php code without changing their
> extension to php, you'd create or edit the .htaccess file in the
> document root to read:
>
> AddHandler php-script .html .htm
>
> That syntax can be slightly different for different servers or site
> settings, such as
>
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm .html
>
> Craig
>
>
>
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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376244 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:26 -0400 Patrice Olivier-Wilson http://golive.lassotalk.com/376244 >> <div id="nav">
>> <?php include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/your-menu-file.php'); ?>
>> </div>
>
> Alright. That makes sense. You know, last night I searched for
> instructions as to how to set up content for ssi's, and of about a
> dozen I looked at, not one explained how you format it. Apparently
> it's one of those things everybody knows, and if you have to ask, you
> are probably too stupid to use it anyway.
>
be sure to strip the .php or .txt page down to only the menu, no body or
html tags

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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376243 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:37 -0400 Said Nuseibeh http://golive.lassotalk.com/376243 >it's all about MM insists on being first or it won't play nice


Got it. Thanks Dave.

As I’ve written off mobile devices to date, what’s another
browser version or two?

Ha Ha. Just joking


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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376242 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:23 -0400 David Miers http://golive.lassotalk.com/376242 It manifests itself in IE 7/8 only, and hit and miss only, my friend had 4 computers at home all xp pro and IE 7 at the time, the problem showed on 2 and not the other 2. Reloading page would sometimes make it work. It manifests by not showing flash the most often and sometimes by a disappearing menu, or even both. It has also been seen in the wild on Vista with IE, not sure about Win 7.

This is one of the pages at the time that were killing us:Warning This little flash player is noisy and is on auto start: Yes I tried, he's a DJ and NOISY:

http://www.musicmastersdjs.net/index.htm

The cure seen used on this page is the dynamic swfobject method where a div ID is used for placement and the code can be anywhere on the page. As seen in my example you'll note that I'm not even loading the script in the <head> as one normally would, but have it and the flash code just before the ending body tag. I probably could have left the script in the head, but this was one of those days where extreme frustration had set in and when I had it working I wasn't messing with it anymore that day, which turned into why bother, it works.

Now since I have 2 MM menus on this page I was dealing with a double whammy and if your flash is in content after your MM nav it will likely be ok. Patrice discovered the CS4 Dreamweaver version of the swfobject problem with flash headers above the MM menu, so again you see it's all about MM insists on being first or it won't play nice.

On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Said Nuseibeh wrote:

> How does this issue manifest and how does one guarantee that MM code loads completely first?


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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376241 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:08 -0400 Dougs Art http://golive.lassotalk.com/376241 On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Craig de Fasselle wrote:

>> What holds is in place, constrains it to where you want it to appear?
>> a div? Or does the include carry the formatting?
>
> The code that is inserted to the page from the include can have the
> formatting, but we'd normally put the div in our page, such as:
>
> <div id="nav">
> <?php include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/your-menu-file.php'); ?>
> </div>

Alright. That makes sense. You know, last night I searched for
instructions as to how to set up content for ssi's, and of about a
dozen I looked at, not one explained how you format it. Apparently
it's one of those things everybody knows, and if you have to ask, you
are probably too stupid to use it anyway.

Reminds me of the college physics textbook I once had in which the
author brought up the point that no other textbook he had ever seen
contained a description of an electric motor that would actually work,
because they all omitted the fact that the casing was part of the
electrical circuit, or some little detail like that.

Anyway, Thanks. Much appreciated.

Doug


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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376240 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:55 -0400 Craig de Fasselle http://golive.lassotalk.com/376240 >What holds is in place, constrains it to where you want it to appear?
>a div? Or does the include carry the formatting?

The code that is inserted to the page from the include can have the
formatting, but we'd normally put the div in our page, such as:

<div id="nav">
<?php include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/your-menu-file.php'); ?>
</div>

The include will insert all the code from the "your-menu-file.php" page
as if it had been written as part of your receiving page.

As such, the included page can contain just the code--no need for the
doc type, head, title, body tags, etc. in the your-menu-file.php page.

Craig


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Re: CMS to change Menu Machine menus? http://golive.lassotalk.com/376239 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:34 -0400 Said Nuseibeh http://golive.lassotalk.com/376239 On 8/5/10 at 3:26 PM, dave@davesfotooptions.com (David Miers) wrote:

>using swfobject for flash. MM code has to load completely
>first, and then you can use the dynamic method of swfobject
>with the code at end of page. Unfortunately DW doesn't use the
>dynamic method...



Now, pardon MY iggurnunce, but I’ve been using swfobject and
MM together without really noticing a clash (aesthetics aside...
I should probably give the two some breathing room):

http://studiosaid.com/g.CmlArtRepro_ArabArt.html

How does this issue manifest and how does one guarantee that MM
code loads completely first?





On another note, the Rev. Steve Willis wrote:

>Has anyone heard from Rob about MM3?


According to Rob’s blog <http://menumachine.com/blog/> they
were seeding to testers in March.


More recently, he commented...

>Unfortunately we haven’t been able to ship it as soon as we hoped, for a variety of reasons. I’m not going to give any more shipping predictions, it was a mistake for me to do so in the first place. When it’s done, we’ll ship it.


Cheers,

-Said


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